It's business without the boring bits with broadcaster Bruce Whitfield.

In this episode, Bruce speaks to Paul Hanratty, Group CEO of Sanlam, about the insurer’s transformation into South Africa’s most valuable insurance company and why India is becoming an increasingly important growth engine for the group.

Bruce also chats to Dean Kowarski, Group CEO of Virgin Active, about how the traditional gym is evolving into a broader “social wellness club” experience, combining exercise, recovery, food and community, as the global wellness economy expands.

The show also features a markets wrap with Meryl Pick, portfolio manager at Old Mutual Investment Group, unpacking the hidden role maritime insurance plays in global trade and how tensions in the Middle East could disrupt oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz and ripple through markets.

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